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Saturday, March 04, 2006

Tao Lin and Gabriel Gudding (joint review)

Tao Lin : I'm Tired (juked)
Gabriel Gudding : Lyric (from A Defense of Poetry)

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I read a review in a paper I usually love, the Boston Review, which began, essentially, "there are three books here, one of them is great, two of them suck, and you'll have to read the review to find out which." That is unfair. This is a preliminary to saying that I am about to say very negative things about both Tao's and Gabe's poems here. Tao's poem you can read online, Gabe's you can read in his new book out by the Pitt press.

I actually admire both Tao and Gabe as writers quite a bit. I also read the eponymous poem of Gabe's A Defense of Poetry today, along with "Lyric", which we'll discuss below. I read them in the atrium of Myopic Books (sorry, short of cash this March) and I thought "Defense" was brilliant. I read Tao's interview with his roommate and thought its obsessiveness rivaled Dostoyevsky's Notes in artistry. I'm aware that Tao might not think of it that way.

But both of these poems are sheer rubbish. I don't usually review things I think are sheer rubbish on rhubarb, because there's not much more you can say about rubbish except that it's rubbish, possibly sheer. I'm doing it now, though, because I think the ways in which these poems fail outline some of the pitfalls of a new kind of poetry that in general I think is very exciting.

I'm talking about a raw, associative kind of work that is struggling to lift poetry up out of the Poetry Magazine pretentious italics and historical references and put it back into some kind of living, breathing form. A lot of the poets I've reviewed recently are doing this. Maybe it's the anti-Pallunurian, or maybe I don't understand Thomas well enough. Gabe I know is doing this, successfully; Tao may be, but I haven't read enough of his work.

There is a filp side to this kind of energy, which I'm going to come out and name as a macho, masculine, fuck you, attitude that is not only posturing, and not only aware of its posturing, but also smugly aware of its awareness of its posturing. In other words, it fails, it becomes as safe, as uncontroversial, as "normal", as accomodating, as consumer-friendly, as anything you might see in Ruth Lilly's pages. It's the same attitude that I see when Matt Rohrer says "Bill's voice is freakishly confident. I like that, and I like Bill's poems because -- I don't know about you -- but I don't have a lot of time to fuck around".

I'm also going to come out and say that this is a boy's game. I haven't seen female writers do the kind of thing Gabe and Tao are doing here, and since this is a blog, I'm going to come out and say why.

I think in the same moment that they are pretending to, adopting, the voice of someone who is sufficiently unintelligent and inarticulate that they should be "harmless", they actually feel a thrill of power. The experience of reading these poems is the same as the experience of watching a white kid lip sync the N-word while listening to rap on the subway. It not only makes you cringe, it makes you angry.

It's a refusal to directly confront the self: the articulate self. Both Gabe (teacher, Normal, IL) and Tao (a recent NYU graduate) can tack on an ablative absolute or a twenty-dollar word just as well as the rest of us. That is part of their lives. That is part of their linguistic perception. As far as they try to run from that, it will always be there and if they are writing a poem they are going to have to turn and face it at some point.

Not that they have to write with the $20 word or the elegant construction, but that they have to face up to the coloration of their perception by that ability. Otherwise they are lip-syncing an imagined Other.

In their drive to purge their poems of any kind of device, they of course fail: their poems are riddled with devices, repetitively and dully deployed. There is, for example, in Gabe's poem that kind of portmanteau creation that could be Germanic but is really just an unfunny version of Strong Bad from Homestarrunner. At least Strong Bad is funny.

Meanwhile, Tao's verbal device -- apart from the occasional apostrophe to the Pulitzer Prize or a snippet of telegraph-speak -- is to ventriloquise the spoiled child, cursing and wailing alternately. It's a ridiculous performance; I'll never demand that poets speak through a mask or pretend they're not there, that some "speaker" has taken their place, but at the same time there is nothing here but raw, embarassing id -- and, again, the ego looking down at it. And, again, the ego taking sideways glances at itself looking down.

Neither performance works. Neither is compelling. Both are profoundly offensive, irritating and would -- were Gabe and Tao not clearly serious, deeply-feeling talents -- be utterly dismissable.

18 Comments:

Blogger Benny said...

Tao Lin was kind enough to link to your review.

I read the poem: I want to know why the editors of this online journal saw fit to publish something that talks about not wanting to make sense, then goes on to make a merely half-assed, half-hearted attempt to not make sense.

Tao Lin has some very interesting views on poetry, and seems like an all-around engaged, well-read guy, and I hope he soon grows into all the opportunities (mainly publishing) being heaped at his feet. At this point, he doesn't appear to take his work seriously. His poetry is frustratingly disposable. Poetry that knows it's disposable is no less frustrating.

"Coyness is nice, and coyness will stop you from doing all the things in life you'd like to."

I wish he'd take himself up on his "1000-page" explanation of his methods.

Thanks for the perspective, and thanks to Tao for linking it.

-b

Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:52:00 PM  
Blogger Tao Lin said...

we all hope tao lin can learn to take his poetry seriously and perhaps one day realize his potential, his 'untapped' potential, which, for now, is merely 'interesting'

Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:03:00 PM  
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Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:24:00 PM  
Blogger Gelsinger said...

I spelled something wrong in my last comment and can't abide that.

There is no ablative absolute in English.

Nobody gives away $20 for words. I've looked.

Just in case . . . um, "thole."

Tao Lin reached his potential in 2003, has been declining ever since, and will continue to decline. We will watch his disintegration and it will make 'Flowers for Algernon' look like 'Miracle.'

Get the tissues out.

Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:44:00 PM  
Blogger CLAY BANES said...

tao was wondrous weird in his day, a real boner.

Monday, March 06, 2006 12:51:00 AM  
Blogger Benny said...

There's nothing "mere" about writing an interesting poem, if you actually pull it off. But a poem that isn't even interested in itself is mere, yes.

That's why I want to know more about why Tao Lin writes the way he writes. Why editors get behind him and publish his work. I'm trying to figure out if I'm approaching it like Da Vinci in the Pompidou, or if there's just nothing to like and I'm not missing the bigger point.

Either way, a poem has to stand on its own. I don't like the one in Juked this time around.

(My 20 dollar words are all names for newly splintered rock/pop genres. I am living off the fat of my royalties.)

-b

Monday, March 06, 2006 6:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Sarah said...

I think it's important to write positive and negative reviews. Otherwise, what is the point of saying it's a review--if it's all positive it's more like a press release.

Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger Thomas Basbøll said...

Has Drew "I Am So Stupid" Gardner accomplished with Flarf what Tao Lin was unable to accomplish with a litany?

Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:46:00 PM  
Blogger Johannes said...

"b" said Tao doesn't "take his work seriously" and that the poem is "frustratingly disposable" - that sounds pretty interesting if you ask me.

As for Thomas, I think the fact that there is the word "flarf" in your sentence makes a world of difference. By invoking a whole interpretive mechanism/community you show that this is a totally different game. Perhaps it's *too* anti-p for your taste?

It now strikes me that this was from long ago and probably nobody will notice this comment.

Nevertheless, interesting review, Rhubarb.

Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:41:00 PM  
Blogger Logan Ryan Smith said...

"but at the same time there is nothing here but raw, embarassing id -- and, again, the ego looking down at it. And, again, the ego taking sideways glances at itself looking down."

that seems pretty engaging and interesting, and FUNNY to me. i like it.

i also like that tao hit his peak in 2003, when he was, like, 12, or something.

Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:51:00 PM  
Blogger Simon said...

I'm just giving a personal response to two poems, and explaining why I don't like them. There's an idea that if a poem can be described, then it must be good: "wow, this poem is self-absorbed and obnoxious, that is really interesting." In some senses, I agree.

Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:30:00 PM  
Blogger Simon said...

Also, what is up with all these people leaving comments that sound sort of like Tao's blog? Can you imagine I said can you imagine fifty people a day walking in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out? Well then friends they may think it's a movement.

Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:32:00 PM  
Blogger Simon said...

Also: re Gabe's blog. Unfortunately, Gabe doesn't have comments enabled, but I do agree I don't spend enough time talking about his work. Hopefully I'll get around to it later this month (with something I like.)

Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tao Lin is Bright Eyes, with a smaller, though no less cultish, fan base. The disarticulated pose, coming from a writer whose own blog reveals incredible, and mostly unapologetic ambition, is fun to watch. I have yet to read a blog by a writer so taken with himself, so indulgent in his unabashed love of the workings of his mind. It's actually refreshing, in a Sharon Olds kind of way. Tao Lin should write the script that the Napoleon Dynamite director would direct with a soundtrack by Bright Eyes and starring the cast of The OC. That would make some serious cash. And make Tao Lin a household name. And that's what we all want. My name is Bill Bagby, and I approve this comment.

Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger Logan Ryan Smith said...

i second the motion to put the entire cast of The O.C. in Tao's movie.

Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THIS IS REALLY A THOUGTFUL REVIEW. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PUT MY THOUGHTS INTO THEIR WORDS MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN MYSELF. SOME OF THE RECENT WEB CONJUNTIONS HAVE BEEN INTERESTING AS WELL AS TYPO, WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY ENJOYED.

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it is not so much as "people leaving comments that sound like tao's blog" as it is tao sounding like a whole group of people, a group that is amazingly replicable.

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I think in the same moment that they are pretending to, adopting, the voice of someone who is sufficiently unintelligent and inarticulate that they should be "harmless", they actually feel a thrill of power. The experience of reading these poems is the same as the experience of watching a white kid lip sync the N-word while listening to rap on the subway. It not only makes you cringe, it makes you angry."
fucking brilliant!! thanks

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:58:00 PM  

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